Censorship in Greenwich Twp?

Good morning Readers … we had a ton of fun at the recent Board of Supervisors meeting this past Monday, October 7th.  If you were unable to attend, let me give you some highlights.  The actual meeting notes are posted on the Greenwich Township Community Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/170215060197261/ so please go there to review facts.

This blog, while being factual, will also contain opinions and emotional responses … this is where the adventure begins.  Should you care to spend an hour and a half of your day listening to the meeting, I will give you the link to the audio file here https://drive.google.com/open?id=1_-0WdWcxJFBC-UQlbp2G9gijdeL5SHD3

I would like to say (before I get started) I am really tired of the Board of Supervisors always busting on the residents that they only show up to the meetings when there is something the resident is concerned about and don’t come to the meetings all the time.  Well, if all 3,000 plus residents came to every meeting, where would they sit???  Or park???  It is a fact of life that a resident will come to a meeting when there is something being discussed that affects them.  SO STOP SAYING THAT ALL THE TIME. Since this warehouse project was publicly announced, Marc and I have been to nearly every Board of Supervisors meeting and nearly every Planning Commission meeting and every Zoning Board Hearing whether they were about the warehouse or something else. (we have missed three due to personal illness and a family funeral)

And to Mr. Victor Berger … I have answered  your question (Where should we put a warehouse), several times over the past three years.  I have also presented documentation from the State Of Pennsylvania regarding township zoning (that it should be reviewed every five to seven years and possibly changed!!!) You and your board members and your solicitor have totally ignored that information…which came directly from the State of Pennsylvania.  My Response: The industrial zone should be south of I-78.

Public Opinion from Krumsville Community Coalition: “And just because an area is zoned industrial and warehouses are allowed (we’ve never argued that they could not build a warehouse there, just not that particular approx 500,000 sq ft monstrosity), it doesn’t mean that a warehouse that creates a public safety issue and will negatively affect property values should be allowed. In fact, there are two zoning ordinances that specifically address this…so why are they not being enforced or the plans being denied based on those?”

Let’s get this one out of the way quickly.  The township sent a letter to PennDOT asking them (one last time) if they – PennDOT – has done a thorough review on the intersection and the safety of that intersection.  In true PennDOT fashion, they did not answer that question at all … so we sent our own letter back to PennDOT and copied most the people that attended the meeting in November 2017.  Read the three letters here. PennDOTletter101519plus I am wondering if the township solicitors will take notice that the PennDOT responding letter did not answer their question and send their OWN response back to PennDOT.  Hmmmm

Also notice that at no time does PENNDOT claim the intersection will be safe – they say the developer had met all requirement and regulations, they say the intersection meets service level requirements…but in 2017 the District 5 head, Dennis Toomey, admitted in a public meeting that the intersection was a “known issue and they had no plans to do anything about”.

ENGINE RETARDER ORDINANCE AND SIGNS.  Mr. Berger, I looked back over the meeting notes for the past six months.  Yes, we did discuss it last month (September).  And the month before (August), and the month before (July) and the month before (June) and the month before (May).  I brought this up originally in April 2019.  I brought you the paperwork that PennDOT requires.  It’s very simple. And I asked about it every month since then. The Board of Supervisors and the Solicitor have not always had a response every month, but I have brought it up every single month.  THIS IS A RESIDENT ISSUE.  The jake-braking along Old Route 22 past the Highland Estates and in the Krumsville intersection is disturbing life for these residents.  The dump trucks and tractor trailers are using their engine retarders unnecessarily all day and all night. I invite you to move into one of the mobile homes along Old Route 22 or in a house in the Krumsville Village for just one week. ONE WEEK of interrupted sleep and the inability to leave windows open for fresh air and you will stop putting this off and pointing fingers and get this ordinance and in place and signs posted. NOTE: If the townships along Route 100 can get signage for NO ENGINE RETARDER, then we should certainly be able to get the same signage.

Now let’s discuss a post I put out on Facebook … I will admit that I engaged in censorship because I removed the original post, an angry, vulgar post by a resident which contained cursing, accusations and direct finger pointing.  I replaced that post with my own post

which was asking a question. The Board of Supervisors held and Executive Session at the Township building the evening of October 2, 2019.  My post was taken totally out of context, it was construed that I was insinuating the Board of Supervisors was doing something wrong, the solicitor and board were totally defensive about this.  HEY!  We do know that the Board of Supervisors will (and do) have executive meetings.  Usually they are held just before, or just after, the normal meeting.  This was (apparently) unusual to have the meeting on a different day. Eleven residents reached out to me (one of those residents had seen the first (ugly) post and asked me to remove it.)

Alex (the solicitor) asked me to refrain was putting inflammatory posts on Facebook. (Censorship?) Little did he know about the post I removed … in retrospect, I kinda wish I had left that post there so they could see how the residents REALLY feel about their township leaders.  (sigh) Problem is there is very little trust between residents and township leaders due to the township leaders tendency to withhold information, redirect conversations without answering questions and previous blatant untruths about the pending warehouse project. ( I will refer you back to the posted timeline in which although Sketch Plans for the original warehouse project had been submitted to the township, Mr. Berger went on record, after that submission, at a public meeting stating, “There is nothing to rumors that a warehouse is going to be built at the intersection of Route 737 and Long Lane.”

 Alex (the solicitor) admitted that HE was stoked by this post.  I asked the room (57 people in attendance tonight) if anyone else was “stoked” by this post. On a small level (six people, all the Planning Commission members in attendance and two residents) admitted they were “stoked” by this post. The rest of room was shaking their head negatively that they were not stoked.

We use the Facebook Group to keep residents updated on information … I, and all the members of the Facebook Group, have the right to post whatever they wish if it is related to township (and adjacent township) things that affect them.  I do monitor the posts and there are rules on the Facebook Groups that there is not allowed cursing or snarkiness.

NOW!  I ask Alex (solicitor) … what about censoring your Township Officials.  In case they decide to go out and delete their posts off the Facebook Groups, I have screen shots of their snarky posts.  Posts that bust on me, bust on Fred, bust on Kay (specifically) and they have busted on other residents who chose to post negatively about the Board of Supervisor members or the Planning Commission members.  WHY WERE THEY NOT PUBLICLY WHIPPED ABOUT THEIR POSTS??? Personally, if that post affronted Alex, and whomever sent Alex the email, so much – they could have simply picked up the phone and called me and asked me to remove it or reword it and I would have! It was not meant to enrage anyone.  It was simply asking the question that the residents were asking. Instead, Alex (solicitor) chose to publicly beat me up about that post.  Gee, thanks for that.  And we wonder why you feel there is a rift between the residents and the township officials.

One of the residents asked at the meeting tonight why Victor is always calling out Dodie, or The Deitrichs, or Fred … My unspoken response to that is because we are the vocal ones at the meetings, asking questions, demanding answers and not letting sleeping dogs lie … we keep prodding those sleeping dogs over and over and so we are the ones that get bit on a regular basis.

I do not attend the meetings just for the warehouse project battle.  I have become thirsty for truth in our township.  I share that truth to the residents that care to read about it. I refuse to censor my posts or my blog so that the feelings of the members of the board or planning commission or the solicitor are not “hurt” or their emotions are not “stoked”. It is my right and I will exercise my right.

August 2019 BoS meeting

Well now.  If you attended the PC meeting in July 2019, you know that after reviewing a multitude of outstanding items on the current plans, the JVI developer’s attorney asked for a deicision, and no they did not want an extension because it was time to make a decision as they were not going to keep making repairations to the plans until they knew that the township was going to accept the plans.

WHAT?

So, the Planning Commission stated clearly that as they did not want an extension, but wanted a decision … and there were too many outstanding items to be able to approve the plans at this time … the decision was to recommend to the Board of Supervisors to deny the plans as they are.

Okay.  Skip forward a week and the JVI Developer’s attorney sent a letter to the Board of Supervisors requesting a 30 day extension so they could fix one item on the plans.

Really?  I though you didn’t WANT or NEED an extension.

Now we are at the August Board of Supervisors meeting. The meeting went a little long as they covered many items not even on the agenda.  And they were items that the Krumsville Community Coalition had presented so I’m really glad I was at the meeting!!!

Harmike Investments requested an extension to November to have time to obtain the rest of their permits so their plan could be moved from Preliminary to Final. (The is the gas station project) The extension was granted.

Crossroads X#2 requested an extension to September to have time to fix one item on their plan.  The township solicitor, Alex, stated that if they granted the extension, since it was just one item on the plans, it would have take the plans back to the PC for review, but would just need to be voted on by the Board of Supervisors.  (I don’t understand.  If they make a change to the plan, doesn’t our township engineer have to review that change, and doesn’t that change have to be reviewed by our Planning Commission?) The BoS granted the extension.

H&K Group had several things to discuss with the BoS.

  1. Using property across from the school for concrete making for the highway project.  They guarantee they will use flaggers during school hours to keep traffic safe and they expect this land to be used for the next four years.
  2. They are closing Stump Road for two weeks 08-12 to 08-25 so they can safely move dirt from one side of the highway project to the other side.  Signs will be posted and the detour route will be laid out on their website for review.
  3. They encourage the community to visit their headquarters to learn where the project is in it’s construction and to ask any questions or give comment or complaint.  They said they clearly want an open door policy with the community.

Friend INC Community Services is holding their annual “Brake for Cycle of Poverty” bike run on Saturday August 10th and they were requesting persmission to be on the Greenwich Twp roads during this event.  Our township solicitor (Alex) was hesitant to grant them anything (since they’ve been doing it already for several years without any kind of permission) as it may open the twp to a liability.

New Enterprise Stone & Lime Co is asking for a temporary Trailer and electric hookup on Twp property for their Old Route 22 repair project which is to begin August 12th and run through October 15th. (This cracks me up.  While the highway project is going on, and dump trucks are running up and down Old Rt 22 loading and unloading dirt, PennDOT hired these people to repair Old Route 22.  Now how is that going to work?  And why repair it now when the heavy truck traffic over the next three years is just going to tear it up again.  Our tax dollars hard at work) The BoS granted a them a lease of $1000/month for that time frame.  BEWARE, this is probably going to cause delays from Krumsville to Lenhartsville over the next several months.  I can’t wait until I-78 has a detour while their doing this repair work.

Zettlemoyer Bridge project is FINALLY getting underway.  Contractor starting August 28 and finishing November 10, 2019.

NOT ON THE AGENDA was some old business.  We (Krumsville Community Coalition) have been requesting some things we wanted the BoS to look into since February 2019.  Apparently, they finally looked into them and had answers.

Actually, we only had one item we were still pursuing as Dan Becker pretty clearly told us at the July meeting that the Board of Supervisors was not going to get involved in any of our concerns.  (See meeting notes. – anyone wishing to hear the July 2019 meeting recording, we have it shared to a Google drive for your review) So imaging our susrprise when Victor said they would review all five items with  us.

  1. JAKE BRAKE ORDINANCE.  The BoS will be asking PennDOT to come and do a study on the grade of the roads and complete the forms necessary, if PennDOT approves, to put signage in the Krumsville intersection.  The BoS says they cannot authorize signs along Old Route 22 on the hill up and down at the Mobile Home Park because if they do, then other people will be asking for signage. So, if you are one of the 27 people that asked me to make thie request on your behalf, please reach out to the BoS in a petition format and provide them a listing of the times of day this is occurring (specifically the late night, early morning times) I am sorry they denied you some peace and quiet along Old Route 22.
  2. FALSE ALARM ORDINANCE. (Brought up by the fire consultant on two different reviews) Dean had pretty much shut us down on this last month stating that it would cause a lot of costs to residences … and that was backed up by Dan Becker. Imagine our surprise that this was brought up.  They did list out that there were not that many false alarms right now, and there was really just one company, Dietrich Meats, that generated most the false alarm calls. So they tabled this ordinance for now.
  3. FIRE CODE ORDINANCE.  We’ve been asking the township to adopt the Appendix D of the 2015 International Fire Code into the ordinances? Pete explained that this is really covered by our SALDO, section 515. Also, if they adopt the code as verbatium, it will open the township up to lawsuits as people will says that they (the twp) are precluding them from building anything on their commercial or industrial property.  Uhm, no .. a long and narrow property like JVI purchased will pass the Appendix D Code, if the building is under 200,000 square feet.  So no, the BoS will not be adding this to the ordinances.
  4. SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS for warehousing. We had presented, in November, January and again in April, why we felt our township Special Exceptions was kinda weak (only has two items on it) We sent four examples from four different townships on their warehouse construction special exceptions.  Apparently, Pete only had one of the four examples and he used that to lay out that pretty much everything in that example was somewhere in our ordinance so they are not going to double up the work and add it to the Special Exceptions.
  5. HOP PETITION TO APPEAL … oh boy, here is a real can of worms. We presented in June and asked the BoS to help us.  We gave them them the website, forms, and other onfo and filing an appeal against the HOP should PennDOT approve it for the JVI warehouse project.  The BoS said they’d look into it.  Then in July, I asked if they had the opportunity to look at it.  The board members all said no and this was when Dan Becker jumped all over our request stating that the board had no interest in being involved in appealing the HOP and if we wanted to file an appeal, then they could look at it, but they weren’t going to do it.  (Again, you are welcome to listen to the meeting recording, I have it out on Google docs, email me and I’ll send you the link) Our attorney was at this meeting, and he told me after the meeting that he was shocked by the response from both the board and Dan regarding this matter.  NOW, at today’s meeting, Alex brought it up stating that my blog last month caused some trust issues because the blog busted on Dan Becker for his responses to our requests.  (LISTEN TO THE MEETING RECORDING!)  Also, Alex did some research into it the HOP appeal and there has to be a legal reason for the township to get involved.  As it is right now, there is no legal reason.  Marc argued that there was legal reasons (ordinance 802, safety in the intersection for the community – health/wealth for the community surrounding the warehouse as property values would go down.) Fred argued that the storm drainage system was going to cause community health issues. AND WHAT ABOUT the illegal deed transfer of the parcel of land that gives the warehouse the necessary right of way for LOS and expanding RT 737 for a turning lane?  At this time, the BoS has no intention of filing a petition for appeal against the HOP.

 

I-78 Woes

01-07-2019 .. In the interest of community information, I-78 has had three major accidents on the 16 mile “death zone” between Hamburg and New Smithville. December 27th, January 2nd and now January 7th.  We noted that although traffic was detoured off I-78 through the Krumsville intersection, we did not have the Kempton Bad Boys out there directing traffic.  Due to that fact, we once again monitored the intersection for informational purposes.

(I have multiple videos of detours dating back to 2017 … showing the dangers of this intersection during traffic detours)

We did wonder why traffic control was not brought to Krumsville, when I-78 was closed west bound (click here to read the article on our latest I-78 misadventure)  and at the same time east bound was detouring onto the shoulder due to both lanes being blocked by the second accident.  Historically, when a major I-78 detour occurred, we had traffic control help in the intersection provided by Kempton, Virginville or Kutztown fire departments. We did catch on the intersection monitoring cameras, three separate fender benders in the intersection during this 6 hour long detour. One of those was a hit and run.

Then this article was posted. (click here to read it)

Date set for talks with state The issue is likely to be discussed at a meeting Jan. 22 at 6 p.m. in the Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency building at the former Hamburg Center on Old Route 22, officials said.

WELL THEN!  I cannot blame the local fire departments for refusing to spend precious dollars on traffic control when the state will not help them with the costs.

It is time for us, the residents, and them, the township governing body, to demand that PennDOT deny the developer, JVI, the HOP (highway occupancy permit) to build their warehouse half a mile north of this intersection.  I-78 resides 400 feet south of this intersection and with I-78 detours becoming the norm, warehouse generated traffic through this intersection is going to be deadly to local residents and area travelers.

Our township can, and should be, involved in the HOP process.  Here is a link to the HOP process.  According to page 3 under the section titled “Municipalities”, Greenwich Twp does have a say in the process and we have asked, repeatedly at public meetings that they get involved.  The answer we receive each time is shrug, hands thrown up in the air and the comment, “We have tried to talk to PennDOT and they will not work with us.”  I totally understand that response as we have had the exact same experience.

We have reached out to Leslie Richards directly with phone calls, emails and letters, and have reached out to her through her office staff with phone calls, emails and letters.  At this time we have received two “form letters” from her … and she believes she is “for the people” and stated on a public newscast that she is “for the people”.  Well then Miss Richards, get your ass out here and review the reams of paperwork, documentation, videos and photos we have on this intersection and then instruct your PennDOT to deny the HOP to the developer, JVI of Crossroads X2.

And Leslie, should you happen to take the time to read this blogs, and the multiple other blogs on this website, and you would like to listen to the four hour long PennDOT meeting we had, I have that meeting on tape.  You can hear every single issue and concern the Greenwich Township and Krumsville residents presented at that meeting … with documentation, photos, video, etc.

We have had multiple meetings with PennDOT, our Senator Argall, and State Representative Jerry Knowles regarding this intersection.  Every single one of these meetings had no resolution, finger pointing and responsibility directed to another government agency.  Well boys, we have done the three ring circus, spoken with every state government agency and yet nothing has been accomplished.

When did government STOP being “By the people, For the people”. When did our local governing body stop trying to protect their residents?  Why, after hundreds of photos, dozens of videos and 200 residents standing up to shout, does PennDOT ignore the fact that this Krumsville intersection is not able to handle any amount of warehouse traffic?

Now, let’s stop to ponder – what is going to happen to this intersection over the next four years while PennDOT is widening the road, shoving traffic through cattle chutes and causing major traffic backups, which will detour off the highway onto Old Route 22 and through the Lenhartsville and Krumsville teeny tiny intersections.  Where is the safety concerns for residents of those towns?

And how on earth, knowing this construction project is to begin shortly, can PennDOT approve an HOP for a warehouse just north of the Krumsville intersection?

 

 

Crossroads X Plan #2, rev 2

Planning Commission meeting 10-15-2018 was very interesting.  This was the final meeting for our township to make a decision on the Crossroads X Plan #2, Revision #2. A plan that our township only received on September 25th, 2018.  A mere three weeks before the deadline.

LTL Engineering rocks!  In three weeks they managed to get through the new plan revision and had a 16 page review letter ready to go. LTL_review_101218  Not only that, but our township rocks as they had the new Fire Code Consultant ready to go and he also had a 14 page review ready to go. Fire_Review_101518

Due to some issues in the past, regarding Crossroads X and a couple other plans submitted to the township, in which the public (residents of Greenwich Township) felt that the plans were not being reviewed openly, nor honestly, our township has changed how the reviews are being handled.  We saw this with the gas station/convenience store plans and again tonight with the warehouse plans.  Basically, the developer engineer and our township engineer, cannot discuss the plans or the plan reviews except at a public meeting. While this can be cumbersome, it has eliminated a lot of the negative comments from residents on social media.

With that said, our Planning Commission and our township engineer had 24 pages of reviews to discuss.  The meeting started at 7:30 pm and ended at 10:00 pm. At the end of the meeting, JVI granted a 90 extension for our township and their engineers to make the plans compliant with the two reviews.  That extension will expired at the January 24th, 2019 Planning Commission meeting.

As soon as I get copied of the two reviews, I will post them here for everyone to read.  I am going to just give you the gist of the reviews here.

One item I need to comment on here, is the illegal subdivision and consequent sale of a piece of land easement from Ken Thompson to JVI prior to Mr. Thompson selling the entire property.  This was brought up and LTL has recommended that JVI present the subdivision to the Zoning Board for review because there could be issues with property boundries and location of the house or the well or the septic.  Here is a case of the developer preferring to ask for forgiveness instead of asking for permission. I believe, that after they go through their subdivision (after the fact) hearing, that they be charged with a hefty fine for violating our township SALDO.

The meeting was video taped by the new attorney for the developer, stating that since there is not an email trail between engineers, there needs to be documentation of the verbal discussion.  The township requested copies of the video tape for their own records and the new attorney agreed to provide that to them.

ENGINEERING REVIEW:

Still a lot of items that are not in compliance.  Most of them are simply technical data issues that needs to be rewritten as apples to apples instead of apples to oranges.  Easily fixed.

(1) The road easement noted above and widening the road will add more water runoff onto a neighboring property. This was discussed a few moments and determined it was a matter for PennDOT.

(2) Our ordinances require new developments to add curbing and sidewalks.  JVI wants a waiver. This was discussed and again, PennDOT was brought up.

It was then determined that they probably needed to get a meeting setup with PennDOT, JVI Engineer and our Township engineer.  I made a request that we (the Greenwich Two residents) be notified of that meeting and be allowed to attend the meeting … especially since JVI attended OUR resident PennDOT meeting last November, and without an invitation.

(3) There was a LOT of discussion about the sewage treatment as they completely revamped their plants to have a small treatment plant with discharge onsite.  Great.

(4) Most their permits are not obtained at this time.  Their attorney said that was because they wanted to be sure their plans would be acceptable before they went to the expense of getting the permits (mostly regarding the installation of a small sewage treatment plant)

(5) Our ordinances require 10% of paved parking areas to be landscaped.  Their attorney said that was not possible given the small area for the truck parking area and if the township wouldn’t give them a waiver on that, then the township would be  inhibiting their ability to build the warehouse.  (No, you can build the warehouse, shrink it down so that the parking area can be larger to you can have 10% of it landscaped.)  It is our ordinance, make your plans fit our laws, do not ask us to waive our laws to fit your warehouse.

(6) LTL has in their review letter Ordinance 802.  This is directly related to the health, wealth and welfare of the residents.  At this time, the developer has not presented to the township how they intend to make the Krumsville 5 point intersection safe for truck traffic, they have not presented how they will prevent the surrounding properties from losing property value, and they have not presented how they will adhere to the HUD Noise and Pollution laws instated in Pennsylvania in 2009.  In fact, when this section of the engineering review letter was read aloud, no-one had any comment at all.

And there are many small minor items that will be easily remedied.

FIRE CONSULTANT REVIEW

The recommendations from the Fire Code Consultant were remarkable.  As soon as I get a copy I will put it here for you to read.  He pretty much advised the township many of the “needs” that we had already put before the Board of Supervisors and added in several more items that we didn’t know about, but surely made sense.

(1) For a warehouse this size, they need not one, but two emergency access roads.

(2) All entrances need to be separated by a calculation of one half the diagonal of the property (we had brought this before the township and was one of the reasons they rejected the first set of plans)

(3) The grade of the emergency access roads is not to exceed 6% … based on their current plans, the emergency access road will have a grade greater than this.  reason for this is the length and rear hang of most larger fire trucks.

(4) This one really caught my attention.  A building this size, with the distance away from large water sources such as ponds and streams, would require as many as 12 firetrucks running in a convoy to provide enough water to effectively fight a fire.  Recommendation for an increase in the size of the water holding tank the developer had proposed.  AND, based on the 5 to 10 gallons per minute pump to refill the tank, should it need to be used – or after an inspection when it is emptied – the building should be evacuated and closed until the water tank is refilled.

(5) Roadways on the property should be built to withstand the weight of a large fire truck, 82,000 pounds.  This is twice the normal weight of a tractor trailer.

(6) Turns should be made to accommodate a large fire truck.  Current plans do not have enough turning radius for emergency vehicles to access all sides of the building.

And then there’s the recommendations for onsite, trained personnel for emergencies – not just fire, but accidents, etc based on the run-times for outside emergency personnel to arrive on site.  It was a very in depth look at what can go wrong and how the township can help to keep residents safe during an emergency at this location.

All in all, a very good meeting.  Very informative and it gave us a ton of information to research before the next meeting in November 2018.

Reading Eagle article

Ron Devlin | Reporter/columnist
610-371-5030
Ron Devlin covers Kutztown and Brandywine Heights School Districts for the Reading Eagle.

Greenwich supervisor says township spent tens of thousands on warehouse proposal

The board also voted to pay a fire suppression consultant $3,100 to review the Crossroads X plans.

Greenwich Township, PA —

In the general scheme of things, spending a few thousand dollars isn’t that big a deal these days for local governments.

But on Monday, the Greenwich Township supervisors agonized over the prospect of paying a fire suppression consultant $3,100 to review plans for the proposed Crossroads X warehouse in Krumsville.

Victor M. Berger, chairman, threw his hands up in the air at the prospect of spending still more money as a result of the proposed warehouse.

“This is a snowball effect,” he said. “With two litigations ahead of us, we keep spending money, money, money.”

Berger’s statement reflected a growing concern over the amount of money the township is spending in the ongoing legal battle over the proposed 505,000-square-foot warehouse distribution facility on Route 737, north of the Krumsville interchange on Interstate 78.

Without being specific, Berger suggested the township has spent “tens of thousands” on legal and other expenses surrounding the warehouse proposed by PSIP JVI Krumsville Road LLC of Wind Gap, Northampton County.

In December, citing safety concerns, the supervisors rejected the developer’s initial plan. That decision and another by the township zoning hearing board are under appeal by the developer in Berks County Court.

Meanwhile, JVI Krumsville submitted a revised plan in March.

In June, the township planning commission approved the developer’s request for a 90-day extension to address concerns raised by the township engineer, LTL Consultants of Oley. The extension expires on Sept. 30.

The plan is expected to come before the commission when it meets Aug. 20 at 7:30 p.m. in the township building.

The commission’s role is to make a recommendation on the plan to the supervisors, who meet on Oct. 4 at 7:30 p.m. in the township building.

At Monday’s meeting, Solicitor Dan Becker cautioned the supervisors that it would be their last chance to hire a fire safety consultant before the extension expires.

A frustrated Berger asked the audience for a show of hands on whether the township should spend the money on a consultant. Most of the people at the meeting were opponents of the warehouse. All raised their hands in approval.

The proposed warehouse, which could generate traffic of 800 trucks a day on Route 737, has drawn intense opposition from Krumsville residents.

Marc and Dodie Sable, outspoken opponents of the warehouse, live directly on the route the trucks would take to the warehouse.

The Sables said that their attorney advised them that the township hire a fire safety consultant to review the developer’s plan.

“This is a half-million-square-foot facility. Let’s make sure it doesn’t burn and take half the township with it,” Marc Sable said. “Hiring a consultant is money well spent.”

Supervisors Victor Berger, Alice Flyte and Dean Spohn relented and hired a consultant to review the developer’s plan.

(NOTE!  What Ron didn’t put in his article is that the approved salt shed plans – over $140k – did not include rain gutters, spouts and ice guards … which when Bobby brought it up at this meeting that we needed them, Victor immediately approved the $3000 costs without any hesitation.  Our thoughts were, why didn’t the plans include that important option???)

Thank You! Senator Argall

Allow me to start this post backwards. I am just a person, like those of you reading this blog.  I am (in)famous in my own network but I am certainly not a public celebrity. Meeting with Senator Argall and State Representative Knowles on July 11, 2018, I learned they are both “real” people. The conversations were easy and fluid.  Not once during the 75 minute long meeting did I feel like we were being talked down to, nor patronized, nor were our concerns brushed off.  They both listened, they both asked very good questions and they both took the time to listen to the responses.  A bonus to the meeting was that they joked with each other and joked with us like we were long time acquaintances.

Yes, the skill of being a good politician, I get it.  However, I am still very happy about the meeting.

Oh, you want to know about the meeting.  Sorry, let me get rolling on that.

We all received a phone call six weeks ago from Senator Argall to join in a phone conference call for the community.  However, most of us work during the day so we didn’t know about this until we got home and heard the message on our answering machines.  He did leave a phone number to call if we had comment or concerns.  Several of us called that number and said, “Hey!  We couldn’t join in the conversation but we really do want to talk to you about some community concerns, please let us have a meeting with you.”

Remarkably, Senator Argall agreed to a meeting.  We met with him, State Representative Jerry Knowles and Senator Argall’s aide, Craig Lutz.

We had three concerns we wanted to address: Although the conversation went around and wove through the three concerns continuously, I will blog the three concerns here and summarize the responses so that it isn’t confusing.

CONCERN #1:  The newly released Berks County Comprehensive Plan.  This plan is about the “planned growth” within Berks County.  Our BoS stated at a meeting in March 2018 that Berks County was targeting Greenwich and Parry Townships for warehouse expansion as we are along the I-78 corridor. Horribly, their growth plan is right on top two of the four Berks County designated historic districts  within Greenwich Township.  Yes, that is 50% of our township’s historic districts “planned to be destroyed” by growth.

Uhm, no!

I passed along the information regarding our historic districts complete with photos and documentation on the businesses and residents within those districts for their review. My comment was, “If growth means destroying our history to make new history, what is the point of having history.”  They had no response.

To continue, for the entirety of Berks County, their planned growth encompasses residential areas.  A full 37% of their targeted growth areas will put residents out of their homes.  I asked Senator Argall and State Rep Knowles if they had the opportunity to read this Berks County Comprehensive Plan.  They both replied they had not.

Well, I have!  And I have notes, charts, photo overlays, and miscellaneous other information regarding this plan and I passed that information along to them for their review.

Much of the growth in Berks County is along the I-78 corridor.  About 25% of their planned growth is along the most dangerous section of I-78 in the state.  A section of highway that PennDOT has deemed unsafe and needing to be improved, hence the project that will be starting in 2019 to widen the highway.  According to the PennDOT website, this project is to be completed by 2023.

Senator Argall said he would reach out and speak to Alan Piper, Transportation Planner III of the Berks County Planning Commission.

This conversation brought up …

CONCERN #2: There safe places for building warehouses and Krumsville is not one of those places.

I had precipitated our conversation with the statement we were not at this meeting to discuss the Crossroads X Warehouse Project.  Our intent was to address community concerns.

With that said, we agreed that industrial zoning allows for warehousing in our township, if the warehouse developer can meet the “Special Exceptions” as listed in the State MPC Code for Municipalities.  However, just because something is allowed to be done does not  mean it should be done.

We discussed location and safety for everyone.  The Krumsville Intersection is not able to handle that kind of traffic, nor is the structure of Rt 737 able to handle that kind of traffic and would quickly deteriorate under the stress of warehouse traffic. (State Representative Knowles asked for a definition of the traffic volumes.  I directed him to the HighCube-Warehouse Oct 2016 Study ITE, particularly referencing warehousing. I did define that there is a newer version, v10, but it is not available to the public for download and we have bits and pieces of the new one from an engineering firm we are using to backup our data.)

Continuing along this line of conversation, we brought up the meeting with PennDOT last fall.  I gave a brief summary of the 3.5 hr long meeting and clearly stated that although PennDOT officials at that meeting promised us a review within 30 days, we have not heard back from them at this time.  I brought the meeting minutes with me and shared those with Senator Argall and State Rep Knowles.  Along with that was the three letters I have sent to PennDOT asking for a followup conclusion to that meeting.  Three letters to which PennDOT has not responded.  Although I have shared these in another blog, let me lay them out here again, in case the reader wants to review that meeting.

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We brought out the PennDOT manual for reviewing and approving an HOP (Highway Occupancy Permit) for the State of Pennsylvania and pointed out three sections in that manual in which the current Crossroads X Warehouse plans do not meet their requirements, unless PennDOT offers the developer a waiver, or exception.  We expressed our concerns that if rules are able to be broken with a waiver, what is the point of the rules and WE DO NOT WANT WAIVERS OR EXCEPTIONS ALLOWED because those waivers create an unsafe situation for the local  residents, travelers in our area and the warehouse traffic. We asked that PennDOT be held to a safer standard for issuing HOP’s (meaning they follow their own rules without waivers and exceptions) and we felt that until the I-78 widening project was complete in 2023, that all HOPs for that section of the I-78 corridor should be held in suspension so as not to add to the already unsafe traffic levels.

Believe it or not, Senator Argall had much to comment on this conversation about PennDOT.  He was visibly upset that PennDOT had not responded to us after our meeting, especially as we had written three letters requesting an update.  He also said that he was going to reach out to Leslie Richards and find out why this has not been addressed, and he mentioned again that he would reach out to Alan Piper Transportation Planner for Berks County.

State Rep Knowles also had comment.  He stated that he had many constituents who would die to have a warehouse in their community.  We stated that they were welcome to it because putting a warehouse in the location proposed was just plainly against any kind of common sense.  We also stated that growth is inevitable, however there is a difference between smart growth and dumb growth.  Smart growth allows a community to grow and prosper, dumb growth destroys the surrounding community and sets back prosperity.  He did not have a response to our comment about growth.

Continuing on, I personally added the comments from Dennis Toomey from the April 12th PennDOT meeting in which he stated that should the warehouse traffic pose a dangerous threat to the intersection, then PennDOT would certainly take steps to make the intersection safe.  (AFTER THE FACT!!!) Our only conclusion to making the intersection safe would be for PennDOT to use their authority to eminent domain the homes on the corners, destroy them in order to widen the intersection to provide a proper set back of stop lines and a red/yellow/green traffic light.  My comment was, “And they will use my tax dollars to put me out of my home.”  Neither Senator Argall nor State Rep Knowles had a comment to that statement.

To conclude this portion of the discussion, we provided website and YouTube information so they could view daily traffic, without I-78 detours and traffic during an I-78 detour, so they could come to their own conclusion about the safety of the intersection in which PennDOT states does not require upgrading to allow a warehouse HOP.

Lastly, the concern is the build up of traffic in Berks County.  Not just along I-78, but also along Old Route 22, Route 222, Route 737, Route 143, Route 61, etc etc etc.

When the I-78 project is started, there will be a massive influx of traffic on the alternate routes as travelers attempt to avoid the construction slowdowns on the highway.  This puts the residents along these routes in danger as well as preventing businesses along those routes to safely invite customers.  We used Krumsville and Lenhartsville as examples of what happens during I-78 detours.  The traffic backs up as much as two miles (yes, this is documented with photographic evidence) and residents/business customers cannot safely enter nor exit driveways along the detour route.  In both intersections, firefighter volunteers are required to direct traffic, stopping traffic way back from the current stop lines to allow for the large tractor trailers to make turns without squishing cars, and the noise generated by the traffic is deafening to those living along the detour routes.

We all agreed that the detour route is necessary.  However, we disagree on the safety issues presented during a detour.  We spoke about what would happen in the event that fire personnel are not available to assist traffic through either intersection, which recently occurred when I-78 was having weekend and nightly road repairs.  In the month of May, there were four fender benders (that we know about) in the Krumsville Intersection due to highway traffic offloading in an attempt to avoid the backup on the highway during these road repairs.  Also in the month of May, I-78 had eleven (11) !!!! accidents which resulted in a detour through Lenhartsville or Krumsville.  During those detours, local residents were subjected to the 40k daily traffic counts that are recorded for this section of I-78.

We had previously requested cameras in these intersections to assist with policing.  Leslie Richards office had agreed that was a good idea, but once again we have not had a response from her offices in regards to our request. And that brought up the fact we have repeatedly reached out to Leslie Richards for a sit down meeting with us and have not been given that privilege.  Most of our correspondence to her is largely ignored or we receive a “form letter response”.  This from the woman who stated on public television that she was a person of the people and our concerns were her concerns.

Hmmm

CONCERN #3: Community wildlife and eco preservation vs. Berks County Growth and Warehousing.  We had representation from Hawk Mountain at the meeting and he spoke at length about the impact a warehouse in Krumsville would have on the wildlife and ecology.  He also spoke about the impact that warehouse would have on the local businesses that depend on the Hawk Mountain Sanctuary and Kittney Ridge Preserve.  He painted a despairing portrait of what would happen to the local economy, what would happen to the local and regional ecology and what would happen to the local wildlife, particularly the raptors and their migratory routes (two routes which are directly across Krumsville).

I personally had never thought about the warehouse project in terms of loss of revenues and loss of life to our local ecological system.  In fact, his speech regarding these matters left the room in a state of reflection.  For a full minute we all sat there quietly digesting his numbers.  I am hoping that his information had a real impact on our Senator and State Representative.

We also briefly touched on the reality of economic growth to the community if a warehouse is built.  First, the warehouse would cause at least one, if not two of the local businesses to actually go OUT of business as the location of their entry/exit driveway would be directly affected by traffic backup when adding 1900 trips per day to Rt 737.  Second, other businesses that may have wanted to take advantage of the commercial district in Krumsville will be turned-off by that same traffic and will not move into the area.  This is a bleak picture as the tax dollars for our township  generated by a warehouse would not cover the additional costs our township would have because of that same warehouse nor cover the loss of taxes for the businesses that will be forced out.

All in all, I felt like the meeting was very productive.  I also felt that much of the information we brought to the table was already before Senator Argall and State Rep Knowles.  What we did was provide them our local community concerns, additional documentation and offer some possible resolutions.  As to the information that they did NOT have prior to the meeting, we asked for some action items.

  1. Cameras for policing installed in the Krumsville and Lenhartsville intersections.
  2. Conversation with PennDOT about suspending HOPs during the construction expansion of I-78
  3. Conversation with PennDOT about following their own manual in issuing an HOP for the warehouse in Krumsville and reviewing the location of the warehouse for safety to the residents.
  4. Review the Berks County Comprehensive plan which will destroy Berks County Historical districts and will put residents out of their homes.
  5. Review the location of the proposed Krumsville Warehouse for smart growth vs dumb growth and address the safety concerns we brought forward in the meeting.

Zoning Board Meeting 03/28/18

Oh my goodness, I had no idea.  We attended the Zoning Board Hearing that the warehouse developer requested and I was well educated about how those are handled.To be able to be heard at the meeting, they had to determine whether or not we (the Sable’s) were directly impacted by the zoning of that property.  Our attorney deftly proved that any zoning changes (ie: a variance) would directly affect our property so we were able to provide testimony and evidence. He also proved that Leroy would be affected, so he was allowed to provide evidence and testimony. And Sean Grace from Hawk Mountain Sanctuary was proved to be directly affected by zoning changes to the property so he was allowod to give testimony and present evidence.

Alex (our township solicitor) was present, representing the township’s interests.

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The developer was asking for three things. An interpretation of Ordinance 805, an appeal of the BoS decision based on Ordinance 805 and a variance for Ordinance 805.

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First, the developer attempted to prove that building a bridge with retaining walls did not constitute a structure.  This was quickly shot down by their own witness (Chris Noll – HA!) who stated that yes, a retaining wall is a structure under the ordinances of our township.

Second, the developer attempted to prove that there is not a stream located on the property at the point of where they wish to build a bridge.  SORRY, evidence presented was cross examined (and yes, it was like a court proceeding with the attorney’s doing all the talking).  And during the cross examination, the evidence they provided was over shadowed by the evidence and testimony the aggrieved parties presented and the line of questioning done by Alex on the township’s behalf.

(NOTE:  The land owner was never called to testify whether or not there was a stream on his property, neither did they provide current photographs of the property showing there was no stream on the property. – WHY?  Because right now, as of yesterday 03-28-18, there was flowing water from the underground spring, which is bubbling and easily seen from the road! So they could not provide said photographic evidence of “no stream”)

On many occassions, the representing solicitors (our attorney, the township attorney) asked for further clarification of information the developer was providing and they could not produce the necessary documents.  I was reminded of their inefficiency at the 12-04-18 meeting in which they quoted PennDOT but could not provide letters or reports from PennDOT proving their case regarding the HOP permit.

Third, the developer provided no information that they needed a variance to build a retaining wall.  WHY?  Because they already have submitted new plans to the township in which the driveway is in a different location and does not require the crossing of the waterway stream.

Oh, yes … we did hear testimony that they submitted new “warehouse plans” on March 15, 2018.  I wonder if those new plans address the other concerns the township had regarding the safety issues of traffic at the five point intersection (Rhoades Rd, Old 22 and Rt 737).  This is the biggest concern our township has with their proposed use of the land.

So, the meeting went very long … until 10:30 pm.  Because the Zoning Board needs time to review all the evidence, they closed the evidentiary portion of the meeting (meaning no more evidence or testimony can be presented) and will reconvene on Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 7:00 pm to hear closing argument and make their final determination.

We ask all residents to attend this public meeting and show support for your community.

Warehouse Woes

I attended tonight’s Planning Commission meeting and I write this post while reeling in disbelief at the incompetence of our local township government.

Two Conditional Use Applications (CUA) are on the table.

  • One for a Convenience Store with a Fueling Facility to be built on the site where PennDOT currently has their base set up for the I-78 project. The attorney for Harmike Investments had a very clear and concise presentation of why their project meets all the conditional use requirements of our ordinances.  I am happy to say that the PC approved their CUA and they will be heard again at the BoS meeting on April 2nd, 2018.
  • Two for a Private Membership/Country Club. Premise, current land owner wants to restore his barn for the use of friends and colleagues who participate in a common hobby of Home Brewing.  The entirety of their presentation took 45 minutes and the presentation wavered between “our ordinances do not define” “Country Club” although it kinda does as it refers to a section 503.14 about Golf Clubs and “is a membership club a commercial land use”  The attorney representing the land owner did a good job of staying on point.  Our PC members did believe that their intent was rural but that their presentation said membership club and with the use of two different purposes on the property (personal home and a club in the barn) that changes the way the property needs to be zoned.  Within the law guidelines, that meant that the land owner would need to be heard before the Zoning Board for a special exception, or at the very least a zoning variance … and here’s where things get hysterical.  For 15 minutes, the PC members argued with each other, and were advised by the solicitor, over how to make to motion to recommend to the BoS that the CUA needs to be heard before the Zoning Board … so their final motion?  Because they couldn’t agree on any one point, they made a motion to make no decision and let the BoS make the decision.

(insert circus clown music here)

Okay.  Now, when I arrived at the meeting, I – to my great surprise – found that I was listed on the agenda.  Interesting, as I had not asked to be on the agenda and no-one from the township had informed me that I was to be on the agenda.  Good thing I went to the meeting tonight!

Why am I on the agenda?  Because at the December 2017 BoS meeting, I stood up for the township residents and asked the township to make some changes to some ordinances to prevent an oversized warehouse to be shoehorned onto a small property.  Specifically, we don’t have a township fire code, so let’s adopt one.  Why don’t we have limits to the size of an industrial building based on acreage. And hey, why aren’t all our ordinances in one manual so we don’t have the confusions we had of the developer looking at a 2009 ordinance while our solicitor is looking at the 2014 updated version of that same ordinance.

To make sure the BoS actually heard our verbal request, we presented the five requesst in writing at the January BoS meeting.  Victor said, “I need more information” so I gave them the seven sheets of paper I had with me, detailing the 2015 ICC Fire Code Appendix D, the two municipalities that limit “I” zoning buildings to (1) 1,000 sq feet per usable acre and (2) 800 sq feet per usable acre and then after that meeting, I sent an email to Dan, per his request, with the Fire Code and links to the municipalities zoning.  I also made a request to know what are the “special exceptions” for building a warehouse in the industrial zones and I was told that information would be provided to me. We also made a request to adopt a weed ordinance ( to prevent the horrible overgrown mares tail weed that occurred this past summer, infecting adjacent farm properties – and to cover the damage at one particular home where the grass was never mowed and the weeds were infecting the neighboring home lawns) and lastly, can we please have our ordinances and our SALDO updated into one manual for easy access on-line.

Alex addressed all these above items, all the while listing out how we had miscommunication and they (the BoS and solicitor) were waiting on US to provide them more information and that is why they have not made any movement in reviewing our request.

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And while they sat on their thumbs since our initial request in December 2017, and didn’t look into making these ordinance changes, the warehouse developer has submitted new plans four months later in March 2018.

THAT’S RIGHT.  New planshave been submitted by JVI, under the current old ordinances, and while their old warehouse plans are in litigation in the courts. At this time we do not know what the new plans are designing.  Be it a warehouse, a manufacturing plant or a commercial farm.  All we were told is that they have submitted new plans.

We are most likely going to have a warehouse in Krumsville.  WHY? Because our local government is slower than molasses, more stubborn than a mule, and still living in 1970 with pen and paper. I so desperately wanted to get on that board of supervisors so I could be active in pursuing the things we needed to get into place to preserve our township, protect our residents and provide current modern thinking.

Alex did provide me with the “two special exceptions” that will allow a warehouse.  One is a tract of land of 25 continuous acres (but of course we do not have ordinances to limit the size of a warehouse on that 25 acres, although Alex says we do, and he will give me that information at the BoS meeting on April 2nd) and two they have to meet the conditions of the current ordinances. (which are way out of date, not up to current technology, and do not address resident safety and health issues based on the new dangers of the 2000’s – like air and noise pollution)

I am very sad tonight. We fought very hard for a year to prove to the township that the warehouse was dangerous, it would pose health hazards and it would impose serious traffic safety issue through the tiny intersection of Old 22 and Rt 737 .  We provided them reams of paper – copies of reports and statistics and research – and they have ignored everything. They have not made a single change to our current ordinances to prevent these dangers, safety concerns and health hazards of constructing a 500,000 sq ft warehouse built on that parcel of property.

We are going to get a warehouse and someone is going to die in the Krumsville Intersection and residents in Krumsville will eventually lose their minds as the truck traffic destroys their home foundations, tears up the roadways, makes it impossible to have a conversation due to the noise levels, prevents them from hanging laundry on the lines or leaving windows open for fresh air – because there will be no more fresh air, just air polluted by traffic dust and diesel fumes.

Board of Directors meeting April 2nd.

 

LAWSUIT against Greenwich Twp

This is my blog, and I can write whatever I want to about this Appeal Lawsuit as filed by the developer …

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Mockingly, I will address several items in the lawsuit as filed by JVI (the developer) against our township regarding the BoS’s decision to deny the warehouse plans. To recap, the Greenwich Twp BoS, after reviewing the preliminary plans, as approved by the Greenwich Twp Planning Commission as “ready to be reviewed”, decided that there are a number of outstanding issues in the plans and denied them.  Every item the BoS determined were safety issues or SALDO issues or Ordinance issues, with the exception of one, had been presented to the Planning Commission and the Board of Supervisors by us (the Krumsville Community) on several occasions throughout the course of the plan discussions from February 2017 to December 2017.  And I have all the meeting recordings to prove that statement.

As you read through the lawsuit, you will see numbers circled on the side.  These are my mocking comments!

1) Actually, JVI filed a “Sketch Plan” on October 11, 2016.  The “Preliminary Plan” was not filed until after the November 2016 review of the sketch plan by Berks County and Keystone Consulting Engineers.  So, already on page 2 of this lawsuit, the filing attorney has their information incorrect.

2) I had to listen to the meeting minutes recording (oh, yes!  I have every meeting from April until January recorded and saved.  Although our Township deletes their recordings after the meeting minutes are written up, I do not.  I have each one!)  Anyway, this is what they actually motioned. “To approve the plans to be submitted to the Board of Supervisors for review.”  So no, the lawsuit is incorrect, the Planning Commission did not “approve the plans”, they approved them to be submitted to the BoS for further review.  (And the PC really should not have approved them, as is later determined.  Keystone Consulting failed to review all the SALDO, all the ORDINANCES and all the PETITIONS as filed by Krumsville Community.)

3) REALLY?  OH MY GOSH!  Apparently, all the meetings with the PC and the BoS from March 2017 to August 2017, the developer sat at those meeting with ear plugs in their ears and their attorney was sleeping because (with the exception of one item) all the items that were the basis for the denial were discussed over and over and over.  We filed many petitions, complaints, documents and research to the PC and to the BoS regarding the “issues with the proposal”.  WHERE WERE YOU, APPELLANT?????

Funny story here, at the November BoS meeting, I have a photo of the one Keystone Consulting Engineer, sitting at the head table, with his head on his hand sound asleep.  Hey!  Thanks for paying attention while the developer tries to confuse the issues about this warehouse plan.

4)  Excuse me, please. The Krumsville Community brought the items before the BoS, who clearly stated they did not have the plans before them and those items would need to be brought before the Planning Commission … and so the Krumsville Community then attended the PC meeting two weeks later and submitted the items.  So yes, we did present to the BoS but they carefully never addressed the items at their table, they sent us to the PC table. We truly felt we were getting the run around at that point.

5) Uhm, no.  Please learn to  use a dictionary. The property is NOT “adjacent to the I-78 Krumsville interchange.” It is exactly .6 miles north of that interchange. And the road to the property from the I-78 Krumsville interchange directs traffic THROUGH the tiny village of Krumsville on a road barely wide enough to handle two traffic trailers passing side-by-side, and the five point intersection in Krumsville is NOT wide enough to allow for safe turning of tractor trailers (we have posted 52 videos regarding this intersection)

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6) This cracked me up.  Why yes, I am such a scary person that when I ran against Alice for the seat opening up on the Board of Supervisors, I scared the BoS into listening to the Krumsville Community’s issues.  UHM, NO!  In fact, in listening to the meeting recordings, many times Victor and Harry stated clearly, and publicly, that they are totally reviewing the issues raised by the Krumsville Community but until the plans are presented to them by the Planning Commission, they cannot comment because they have not seen the plans.  Once again, the problem falls into the lap of Keystone Consulting Engineers (fondly referred to as KFC Knuckleheads) because they failed to thoroughly review the plans and they advised the Planning Commission inappropriately regarding the plans compliance. Now, I will state that I believe the PC also failed as they did not do their own research, as presented to them by the Krumsville Community (over and over and over)

7) Why yes, the BoS did (over and over) tell the developer that the five point intersection was going to become extremely dangerous when traffic for a warehouse was added to it and yes, they were VERY concerned about that.  Why KFC Knuckleheads agreed to the traffic studies, we will never know. (because they have since been fired by Greenwich Twp)

8) This is not true, they did not “preclude use”, they denied your plans as presented because there are defects in the plan against our SALDO, our Ordinances and public safety. In the denial letter the BoS slearly states that JVI is more than welcome to resubmit the plans after correcting all the issues to make the plan compliant.

9) Well, well, well.  Apparently you did not listen at THAT meeting, either.  Greenwich Township (at the time of the denial) did not have ANY firecode ordinances and as such, they chose to use the 2015 ICC Fire Code Appendix D.  And let me tell you, this was the topic of conversation at every meeting from the time the BoS received the plans because the developer’s proposed emergency access road was a joke and was not safe and would be compromised in several different ways (as the BoS presented to the developer over and over and over) And at that same meeting (and yes, this is recorded) the solicitor asked the local fire chief if the emergency access design was safe and appropriate and the fire chief clearly states that “No, it is not.”  WAKE UP!

10)  HA HA HA HA HA HA HA … Really? Oh my gosh.  PennDOT contacted us, the Krumsville Community, regarding a letter and petition we sent to PennDOT about reviewing the intersection as a safety issue in the HOP process.  They contacted us, the Greenwich Twp Board of Supervisors and the Developer to attend this PennDOT meeting. There was nothing secret about it.  I did stand up and say I was hesitant to have this meeting with the Board of Supervisors and the Developer in attendance because I did not feel that their presence would allow us the full attention of the PennDOT representatives.  However, this meeting was never a secret.

11) The BoS requested those PennDOT documents at the December 4th meeting and the developer could not produce “the alleged” documents.

12) And a second opinion is not allowed, why?

13) Amazing, I was never privvy to any private meetings, private conversations, or aware that there WERE any private anything.  Everything that the Krumsville Community had to do with the BoS and the PC were done at the public meetings.  All documents, complaints, petitions, etc were all presented at the public meetings.  So, what did I miss out on????

14) Oh no no no … the Krumsville Community presented inches of “expert testimony” in the forms of research, documents, PE Sealed engineer reports and a one meeting, the Krumsville Community did bring two experts to discuss the research and we were not allowed to have them speak.  Oh, and let’s talk speculation for a moment.  The entire warehouse plan and developer submitted traffic reports, etc are all “speculation”.  Until the warehouse is built and in full function, everything leading up to that is speculation and supposition.

Staying diligent

We have an official denial letter from our BoS to the Warehouse Developer. denialletter_121517

While this is a huge win for us, the residents, this is not the end.  This is simply the beginning of a new path.  The developer/land owner will file a lawsuit hoping a judge will over turn the decision. We will stay on top of the legal process and stay involved.  It is important to to show the courts that we stand behind our BoS’s decision!

In other news, I have sent a letter to PennDOT regarding our November meeting.  They promised to get back to us on our concerns about tractor trailer traffic being forced through the Krumsville intersection.  To date, we have not received a response from them.  We HAVE to stay on top of this and get an answer from them.  This intersection cannot handle this kind of traffic and PennDOT needs to recognize that and put a limit to any HOP they would issue to the industrial and commercial properties north of I-78 through that intersection.